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	<title>Comments on: Design thinking for Christian institutions&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Doy</title>
		<link>http://www.doycave.com/2003/10/design-thinking-for-christian-institutions/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Doy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I think you bring up a good point about focus...or at least bring it to my mind, anyway. One of the weaknesses of that article was that the writer attempted to paint all schools with the same brush. There are those schools students will turn to because of renowned faculty -- others will turn to schools because of their location.

I think in either case, the school can "hard sell" what makes them unique, and then make sure that in advertising themselves, they're falling in line with what God's called them to do.

I don't think you can paint all institutions so broadly. I don't know that she was attempting to do that, but I do know the "passion" part doesn't necessarily work for everybody...theoretically, anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I think you bring up a good point about focus&#8230;or at least bring it to my mind, anyway. One of the weaknesses of that article was that the writer attempted to paint all schools with the same brush. There are those schools students will turn to because of renowned faculty &#8212; others will turn to schools because of their location.</p>
<p>I think in either case, the school can &#8220;hard sell&#8221; what makes them unique, and then make sure that in advertising themselves, they&#8217;re falling in line with what God&#8217;s called them to do.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you can paint all institutions so broadly. I don&#8217;t know that she was attempting to do that, but I do know the &#8220;passion&#8221; part doesn&#8217;t necessarily work for everybody&#8230;theoretically, anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave J.</title>
		<link>http://www.doycave.com/2003/10/design-thinking-for-christian-institutions/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A local christian school here in Michigan, Cornerstone University, is running ads in the local paper that are decidedly different.  They are highlighting the professors and making them sound qualified and interesting...like showing the drama professor acting in a Shakespeare play and listing her performance experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A local christian school here in Michigan, Cornerstone University, is running ads in the local paper that are decidedly different.  They are highlighting the professors and making them sound qualified and interesting&#8230;like showing the drama professor acting in a Shakespeare play and listing her performance experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Swindall</title>
		<link>http://www.doycave.com/2003/10/design-thinking-for-christian-institutions/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Swindall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2003 07:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really??? I didn't know that about the Gatekeeper! (Then again, I didn't download the Gatekeeper that often!) Oh well... I think I'd be more grateful for the opportunity to get a catalog right now, versus having to hope and pray the US (and if they are as negligent as ours, the Canadian) Postal Service gets it to me on time and in one piece! That, to me would be worth, say, $5 for a download fee. BTW, found a server yet? I think I'm moving to 1and1.com... free for 3 years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really??? I didn&#8217;t know that about the Gatekeeper! (Then again, I didn&#8217;t download the Gatekeeper that often!) Oh well&#8230; I think I&#8217;d be more grateful for the opportunity to get a catalog right now, versus having to hope and pray the US (and if they are as negligent as ours, the Canadian) Postal Service gets it to me on time and in one piece! That, to me would be worth, say, $5 for a download fee. BTW, found a server yet? I think I&#8217;m moving to 1and1.com&#8230; free for 3 years!</p>
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		<title>By: Doy Cave</title>
		<link>http://www.doycave.com/2003/10/design-thinking-for-christian-institutions/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Doy Cave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2003 07:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't get the same vibe from her suggestions...I thought she was pointing seminaries more to "passion" for God and for His work...pointing more to the calling. She was being practical in a lot of places, and there were places where I disagreed with her redesign (and there were a couple of places where my red flag went off, too)...

All in all, though, I thought it was a pretty good resource.

I didn't know about the donation.... They're a non-profit, I think, so I guess that's why they term it, "donation." We did that with The Gatekeeper, you know...we asked for donations, but could never call them subscriptions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get the same vibe from her suggestions&#8230;I thought she was pointing seminaries more to &#8220;passion&#8221; for God and for His work&#8230;pointing more to the calling. She was being practical in a lot of places, and there were places where I disagreed with her redesign (and there were a couple of places where my red flag went off, too)&#8230;</p>
<p>All in all, though, I thought it was a pretty good resource.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know about the donation&#8230;. They&#8217;re a non-profit, I think, so I guess that&#8217;s why they term it, &#8220;donation.&#8221; We did that with The Gatekeeper, you know&#8230;we asked for donations, but could never call them subscriptions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Swindall</title>
		<link>http://www.doycave.com/2003/10/design-thinking-for-christian-institutions/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Swindall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2003 17:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doy, I downloaded the PDF, even printed it out, so I could take a good long look and read... it has some great content, however, I kept noticing that the writer went for a more humanist bent to just about every re-do suggested. The design suggestions were great, but the text re-writes and headline suggestions seemed to be more human oriented than God oriented... which raises a HUGE red flag in my mind. After all, prospective Seminarians SHOULD be responding to a call from God, right? They are already spiritually oriented, so, why not go for the spiritually oriented message? Why not tell them how God can help them accomplish what He has called them to do at Seminary X (well, that's Southwestern.... may not be possible there - KIDDING!!!! Its an OLD NOBTS joke) Those are just my preliminary thoughts....
By the way, you have to register to download the PDF. Big whoop, I know, but, if I'd have known that ahead of time, I probably wouldn't have gone to the site. And I DEFINITELY wouldn't have had I known they were gonna ask me for a $5 donation for the download! Which raises an interesting situation.... can you sell a student catalog on a Seminary website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doy, I downloaded the PDF, even printed it out, so I could take a good long look and read&#8230; it has some great content, however, I kept noticing that the writer went for a more humanist bent to just about every re-do suggested. The design suggestions were great, but the text re-writes and headline suggestions seemed to be more human oriented than God oriented&#8230; which raises a HUGE red flag in my mind. After all, prospective Seminarians SHOULD be responding to a call from God, right? They are already spiritually oriented, so, why not go for the spiritually oriented message? Why not tell them how God can help them accomplish what He has called them to do at Seminary X (well, that&#8217;s Southwestern&#8230;. may not be possible there - KIDDING!!!! Its an OLD NOBTS joke) Those are just my preliminary thoughts&#8230;.<br />
By the way, you have to register to download the PDF. Big whoop, I know, but, if I&#8217;d have known that ahead of time, I probably wouldn&#8217;t have gone to the site. And I DEFINITELY wouldn&#8217;t have had I known they were gonna ask me for a $5 donation for the download! Which raises an interesting situation&#8230;. can you sell a student catalog on a Seminary website?</p>
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