Comments on: Making peace with the church… http://www.doycave.com/2003/08/making-peace-with-the-church/ The nine bajillionth blog on the internet...neglected by Doy Cave. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:04:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Doy http://www.doycave.com/2003/08/making-peace-with-the-church/#comment-31 Doy Wed, 03 Sep 2003 17:20:47 +0000 http://doycave.com.s24451.gridserver.com/wordpress/?p=39#comment-31 Oh, please don't misunderstand me about marketing, Dave. I haven't given up on it. Marketing isn't evil in and of itself. It's a useful tool for the kingdom. I just want to see it spiritually approached for the sake of the church. I really think the church is relying to heavily on marketing in place of the power of God to grow their churches, and the result is evident. At least 80% of all Protestant churches are either plateaued or declining. I just think our focus is wrong, and for the sake of the church, I hope it changes. Thanks so much for your insight...and Kevin...Wow! Thanks for your encouragement. Praise God you were blessed! Oh, please don’t misunderstand me about marketing, Dave. I haven’t given up on it. Marketing isn’t evil in and of itself. It’s a useful tool for the kingdom. I just want to see it spiritually approached for the sake of the church. I really think the church is relying to heavily on marketing in place of the power of God to grow their churches, and the result is evident. At least 80% of all Protestant churches are either plateaued or declining. I just think our focus is wrong, and for the sake of the church, I hope it changes. Thanks so much for your insight…and Kevin…Wow! Thanks for your encouragement. Praise God you were blessed!

]]> By: Kevin http://www.doycave.com/2003/08/making-peace-with-the-church/#comment-32 Kevin Tue, 02 Sep 2003 21:04:26 +0000 http://doycave.com.s24451.gridserver.com/wordpress/?p=39#comment-32 Doy, you have just blessed my socks off. This goes down as one of the top posts I have ever read on a blog. Thanks for your brutal openness. I am convicted. Doy, you have just blessed my socks off. This goes down as one of the top posts I have ever read on a blog. Thanks for your brutal openness. I am convicted.

]]> By: Dave J. http://www.doycave.com/2003/08/making-peace-with-the-church/#comment-33 Dave J. Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:20:16 +0000 http://doycave.com.s24451.gridserver.com/wordpress/?p=39#comment-33 The church needs a backbone to operate. Marketing helps provide that structure. My church operates more like a jellyfish for lack of a (leadership) structure that can encapsulate our mission and enable our action on it. Stewardship in a vacuum can be burying your 'talent'. Don't give up on marketing, yet. It just needs to be used for the right purposes. Should we rely on faith healing and not on medicine? The church needs a backbone to operate. Marketing helps provide that structure. My church operates more like a jellyfish for lack of a (leadership) structure that can encapsulate our mission and enable our action on it.

Stewardship in a vacuum can be burying your ‘talent’. Don’t give up on marketing, yet. It just needs to be used for the right purposes. Should we rely on faith healing and not on medicine?

]]> By: Doy http://www.doycave.com/2003/08/making-peace-with-the-church/#comment-34 Doy Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:14:47 +0000 http://doycave.com.s24451.gridserver.com/wordpress/?p=39#comment-34 Actually, I don't think I have it enabled in the HTML. I need to go back and add the MT tags for Trackback before it will show up, I think. Actually, I don’t think I have it enabled in the HTML. I need to go back and add the MT tags for Trackback before it will show up, I think.

]]> By: Doy http://www.doycave.com/2003/08/making-peace-with-the-church/#comment-35 Doy Sat, 30 Aug 2003 00:42:53 +0000 http://doycave.com.s24451.gridserver.com/wordpress/?p=39#comment-35 Try again, Phil. I enabled it awhile ago, and rebuilt everything, so it should work. Try again, Phil. I enabled it awhile ago, and rebuilt everything, so it should work.

]]> By: Phillip Swindall http://www.doycave.com/2003/08/making-peace-with-the-church/#comment-36 Phillip Swindall Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:21:45 +0000 http://doycave.com.s24451.gridserver.com/wordpress/?p=39#comment-36 Doy, Dude, you need to enable trackbacks! I just posted an entry on my blog related to this entry on YOUR blog... the trackback ping is set from my site, so if you get it set up, then it'll be there. Doy,
Dude, you need to enable trackbacks! I just posted an entry on my blog related to this entry on YOUR blog… the trackback ping is set from my site, so if you get it set up, then it’ll be there.

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